Vertical jump is the ultimate body weight exercise. But his lane agility destroys any formula you would use to try and get a solid grip on how the drill portains to a players capabilities. When their athleticism declines so does their game. I’m sure you notice that there are players such as Paul Pierce for instance who might show up for combine testing and not do very well at all. But as far as your examples, one was picked 1, and he was just the flat out best prospect in the class, and as much as he was not polished offensively and such, he was compared to Tim Duncan, Dwight had game (still does). Luka Doncic has quickly proven he has a devastating step back move. Fans tend to gravitate towards the 3’s because they are amongst the most productive and entertaining players to watch. That is why the combination of athleticism and saavy is what stands out past raw athleticism, all the time. It is more of a measurement of how capable you are at controling your body in an extremely short burst of energy. What do you take away from athletic testing? But if someone thinks that DeMarcus Cousins and Larry Sanders won’t block shots because they jumped sub 30 inches, I think you will be pleasantly surprised when they are both fairly productive. I think that logic says you have to take these results with a grain of salt and focus on what tools a player possesses as a basketball player and their mental approach to reching their full potential, but it is hard not to muse “well, he is just like this other great player.” In this I am talking about Chad Ford’s recent exclaimation that Derrick Favors has incredibly similar measurements to Dwight Howard, thus has the potential to be more than just a 4, but a 5 as well. The athlete in them decides they could further improve their games by being the highest jumpers, fastest runners, quickest, most agile player on the floor aswell. This drill is used in NBA draft combines and is a great test of speed and ability to change direction. I would say not, but I am guessing it makes Babbitt to the Grizzlies seem a lot more likely (or maybe even pushes him up to the Pacers, lol). So, here are my last questions, if you would like to take a shot at answering them. The only way you know how athletic a basketball player is comes with what they do when they are on the basketball court. Basketball is considered an anerobic sport. (Prevents Spam). Begin on the baseline on the right side of the lane. They anitcipate plays as they unfold and move around the floor with or without the ball like they were moving chess pieces. You may still very have a poor basketball IQ… but athletically your capable. He also if I am not mistaken from his interview , he said he graduated so that is worked on his game and graduated in 3 years. This topic contains 12 replies, has 7 voices, and was last updated by  sc0rebuckets11 10 years, 5 months ago. Webster is still in the NBA but not Green. Or get that 12’6 marker in that first dunk contest? Do players train in this drill before they participate, or just do it on the go? Basketball IQ. This not only ate up 4 seconds of playing time but it also forbid the Magic from advancing the ball. Like, would Steve Nash, who is excellent at changing speed and direction, kill this drill? Players should learn to move and […], Tuesday, Memphis Grizzles guard-forward, CJ Miles used an devastating shot fake to shake Marco Belinelli and drive to the rim. (Fast enough to get a relative unknown drafted in the second round by the Pacers). Please enter your email address. Subscribe to our free monthly newsletter to receive three free eBooks with over 270 pages of content. You either choose the athlete and regret it, or not choose the athlete and regret it. Or vice versa. These players are very rare because when you play like a savy vet. By the way, anyone still think Jordan Farmar has the highest vertical in the NBA? How fast can you see these things? At the next cone backpedal up the lane to the free throw line. Their speed did not really seemed to matter to someone who just pulled up from 25 right through the hoop. I remember his first year people were saying Portland was stupid for taking Webster. Solid answer Hot Snot. Body control and foot speed. It proves you can change direction and maintain speed while doing it repetitively over a 10 second period. Gerald Green look good early on but he stopped improving. plus three free eBooks with over 270 pages of our favorite basketball drills and plays! Some people thought he could be the first pick in the draft had he left after his junior year of high school. But, Troy’s game was not really one that used this athleticism to his advantage, he was more of a shooting guard in a point guards body, and he just did not stick around. Two guys chosen for their athleticism in that same draft, Kedrick Brown and Rodney White, are both monumental busts. Kwame, Darko, Swift, Julian Wright, Haislip, Alexander, and so on, I could probably rattle off 20 or so in about 10 minutes, but that does nail the point home that picking a guy off athleticism alone is such a risk and your right, that would be a rough spot to be in because as a GM, when you are confident in your organization and your coaches drafting an athelte in hope he may become polished isn’t such a stretch…at the time, but in reality those are they guys who have the highest probablity of busting. This site has no affiliation with the National Basketball Association | Website by. You will receive mail with link to set new password. I believe its an excellant indicator of your defensive ability to navigate the floor without picking up bad fouls. You must be logged in to reply to this topic. But do Luke’s combine numbers boost him in front of players of maybe similar size who just seem to have better basketball acumen and more potential? Can you see a play unfolding before it happens? If your out of shape, your legs won’t be under you for long and your shot becomes eratic. BUT sometimes they do, Gerald Wallace was extremely raw and is now an all-star as was Dwight Howard and Amare Stoudamire, but they are by far the exception not the rule. that you can’t predict who’s gonna work hard and who’s not. Mickeyvthedon and Hotsnot, I like both of your breakdowns in this subject matter, but one thing i’d like to add is that GM”s and scouts see a guy ( to refer to HotSnot’s 3 typs of players) who is an athletic freak and they chose him high in hopes that with the proper training and surrounding cast he can evolve into a “type 3” player. Benefits: Boosts acceleration and agility. The choices one must make as a GM are not enviable. Do you recognise the tendancies of teams and players? The three guys before Spains former 3rd stringer were Brandon Armstrong, Jeryl Sasser and Joseph Forte. What if there was a way to step back from our thoughts? My only problem, is that it does not set a precedent. © 2019 Sports Phenoms, Inc., All Rights Reserved | Simply subscribe to our monthly newsletter and receive: 72 Basketball Drills & Coaching Tips - 136 page eBook, 21 Basketball Tips & Tricks for Players - 20 page eBook, 32 Winning Basketball Plays - 96 page eBook, Over 200,000 players, coaches and parents subscribed. He went 25, so it was not like the Kings were taking much of a gamble. Michael Jordan would have looked mighty intuitive :). and not to mention Durant is sandwiched between the athletic prowess of Emeka Okafor and DeSagana Diop when it comes to the drills history. Side shuffle left, making sure to pass the cone. But with Gerald, he went far too low. I mean, it is like Usain Bolt running against Cecil Fielder (maybe a slight exaggeration), but honestly, when he ran that time, were people like, “Man, you sure you got it right?” It just seems to make so little sense that a person have that much of a lead over the next competitor. It is helpful to know that if a player has just run his heart out for ten seconds, can he hit and open jump shot? One time in a full court 4 on 4 game against some younger, much faster and more athletic track runners and jumpers in college, I thought it was a good example of athleticism only getting you so far on the basketball court. Start with one foot behind left elbow. Yes, one of the quickest players in basketball currently was bested by a guy who is known for the most awkwardly white crip walk in the history of man kind. Timing beings when the player starts his/her motion. Jamison Brewer ran a 9.65 in this test. National Skills Challenge presented by Under Armour, Brad Stevens Talks About Unlocking Players Potential. Wade, Kobe, MJ, Lebron etc. Now, no matter how poor the PG play was at G-Tech, does anyone believe that Derrick Favors is the second coming of Superman (Jr., respect to Shaq)? When you get to the cone at the right elbow, side shuffle left towards the starting point. So you do bring up a good point, some teams do want to mold one of these athletes to a baller, but it is far more the exception than the rule. I am guessing it must be a common practice drill, and that they at least do it before hand, but how did a guy just smoke the rest of these incredible athletes?